The Spriting Dark Carnival

Post by **Blood of Nightmares** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:24 pm

I've actually found some more:

Source: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=63923

Post by **Dead Reckoner** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:58 pm

Some "concept frames" I made for monster ideas when I was bored years back.

Possessed armor

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Resistant to fire damage, prolonged charging attack like Quake's knight. Restricted in the numbers and level themes it could be used in, might make for a good mini-boss.

Blob

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Splits into smaller versions as it takes damage. Engulfs players, making them stuck in place as it deals damage, requiring rapid mashing of the use key to escape.

Werewolf

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Very fast, hard-hitting. Functions on land much like a gill beast functions underwater. Can morph from civilians.

Wraith

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Thought of it as a classic style rendition of Blood 2's death shroud.

Acolyte replacement

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Having so many cultist recolors running around cheapens the vibe. Would be a lot better if at least one of them had its own unique sprites.

Blood 2 zealot

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Would behave much like the Blood 2 wizard. Strong magic attack, close range shockwave and teleportation. Flare gun fodder.

Post by **Dimebog** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:20 pm

I like the Wraith one, looks like it could be made into a simple sector-based boss hovering around. BLOOD doesn't have anything close to those greens in its palette so the sprite is not usable in its current form, and it also has alpha-transparency edges which BLOOD doesn't support either.

Post by **Dead Reckoner** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:24 pm

Yep, I was being very liberal with the palette for most of them. The alpha effects were unintentional and probably the result of sloppy use of the blur or clone tool. Does any Build derivative have that feature like ZDoom which preserves the coloration of PNGs independently of color palette in-game?

At least for now we can speculate on how a phantasm would look with a ghostly green

Post by **Dimebog** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:03 pm

It does, but you really don't want to mess with BLOODs colours. It instantly looks out of place when you add something like that. When you make sure you use the proper palette, the sprites suddenly blend in like they were always designed for the game instead of sticking out like a sore thumb.

Post by **Dimebog** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:10 pm

Case in point:

Your avatar with no discernible palette:

Your avatar with the BLOOD palette applied:

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That one actually kinda works but there is still some diffusion patterning because those blues are also not really in the palette ranges. The green one turns REALLY dotty trying to emulate that green from blues and like, two drab greens.

Here's the palette if you want to use it:

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Post by **Dimebog** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:23 pm

Here's what happens with the green phantasm when converted to BLOOD's colours:

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I enlarged it so you can see what I'm talking about when I say diffusion patterns. It's a consequence of a lack of colours in that particular range. Also, got that one stray white pixel i didn't remove by accident.

Post by **NoOne** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:27 pm

I like werewolf a lot and wish if there full sheet available

Post by **Dead Reckoner** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:45 pm

Dimebog wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:03 pm It does, but you really don't want to mess with BLOODs colours. It instantly looks out of place when you add something like that. When you make sure you use the proper palette, the sprites suddenly blend in like they were always designed for the game instead of sticking out like a sore thumb.

Good points on all. Thanks for the palette, I might try to redo some of them with it.

The werewolf is one of the simpler edits and a full rotation should be doable. I might even give it a go, but it will have to be without the shorts for now.